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Posted by: Jeff on 12-09-09:

Hi Craniac,

No, it's not a secret but rather just never discussed. There's a great sign heading on the cape that says "Mashpee Sandwich" (an exit for two cape towns) and I always thought that sounded like a terrible lunch item. It may have even been the original first name.

Thanks for checking out Brambles. Pass it along to others! THanks!

Posted by: Craniac on 12-07-09:

Wait! He didn't write to me; I copied that part, obviously. Crummy system removed spaces...just clarifying.

Posted by: Craniac on 12-06-09:

Fellow BRENT OBERLIN wrote to tell me he's the first one to know where the name "Mashpee" came from. Good job Brent! (pretty sure I know, too.)It's a secret? Even from Him? "Brambles" is killer, btw.

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Posted by: Jeff on 12-09-09

Hi Craniac,

No, it's not a secret but rather just never discussed. There's a great sign heading on the cape that says "Mashpee Sandwich" (an exit for two cape towns) and I always thought that sounded like a terrible lunch item. It may have even been the original first name.

Thanks for checking out Brambles. Pass it along to others! THanks!

Posted by: Craniac on 12-07-09

Wait! He didn't write to me; I copied that part, obviously. Crummy system removed spaces...just clarifying.

Posted by: Craniac on 12-06-09

Fellow BRENT OBERLIN wrote to tell me he's the first one to know where the name "Mashpee" came from. Good job Brent! (pretty sure I know, too.)It's a secret? Even from Him? "Brambles" is killer, btw.

Posted by: Master on 09-17-09

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Posted by: Jeff T. on 08-23-09

It's now called the 'brambles of hell" and will be out in about 10 days from today.

Posted by: Craniac on 08-23-09

So what ever happened to/with "The Attack Dogs of Compassion"?

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Posted by: IVESLIVES on 07-24-09

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Posted by: Jeff T. on 07-13-09

Hi Jeff, Brent told me that you don't like any special sauce on your burgers. WTF? Yes, we were talking about you and just yesterday.

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Posted by: Darren on 02-02-09

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Posted by: Jeff on 01-13-09

Please don't fret just because it isn't in the collection. You can download it as a single I beleive from MySpace, and when you burn your playlist, you can make your own 13-song version of "Birds", completely unauthorized by Bryers. I'm going to put a Peter Cetera song on MY personal copy of Birds.

Posted by: cultureofnone on 01-12-09

oh, my. is "Speed Queen" not one of the tracks on 'Birds'? i adore that song!

Posted by: Jeff on 01-12-09

Thanks! That song is my favorite of the bunch.

Posted by: Mandi L. on 01-11-09

WOW. This is way up my alley. Love will Cloud is soooo good. I always loved your projects and I am so impressed.

Posted by: albuquerqueviakalamazoo on 12-03-08

Could somebody e-mail me some good 4Peace pix? Super Thanx!

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Posted by: jeny on 09-23-08

i realy love this shit, and will like to see more of that.pls can you be updating me with some of this pictures. thanks

Posted by: um on 07-26-08

and the aw twiddle twiddle award goes to: the last person who said i'm sick of taking your shit. too bad, you're taking it. aw, twiddle twiddle.

Posted by: Haz on 07-09-08

feel sorry for the freak accident at zendik farm that put my name on their little characature of the dead man. relief the bitch got taken down as if our website isn't enough of an eyesore as it is. shitstain.

sincerely,

frogs live. eat it, destinklee.

Posted by: Michael J on 04-30-08

You're Welcome

Posted by: Frog on 03-30-08

k revel everyone is not arol, only arol is arol, you win. the point is that the truth stands for itself, so i do too, and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it, which puts your tiny power trip right in its place doesnt it. doesnt matter anyway. cheers.

Posted by: . on 03-28-08

right, well i guess expecting that drastic of a process acceleration isn't rational is it. *shrug* well if it makes any difference,I myself as Steve,am NOT a wound up nature show host or school shooter or some random person who cant manage to get off their ass without external encouragement or anyone else I killed who's name was Steve.THAT Steve is DEAD in the final context of the word and no one in their RIGHT MIND cares, to continue identifying with him as a living being.This is ludicrous.

Posted by: seventh cloners cloners clone's clone of a seventh cloners cloners clone's clone's clone on 03-19-08

everything is enchanted. enchantment is the more melodic synonym of entropic gravity touching closer to its etheric nature as you see it takes the cemetary out of the song in essence linguistically. take, for example, my radio. it's an inexpensive cd player and am/fm model with no tape player and no clock- i had the option to let my mom get me a pricier model because it was a birthday gift but the other model was unaesthetic. the brand name printed on it demanded attention. this little guy doesn't ask me to look at it. after my mom bought it for me i gave it back then bought it off her, which sounds like nonsense maybe but thats what i had to do for it to be mine. now its in my aparment sitting on the microwave, plugged into the wall (the radio is, not the microwave), but i never use it, nor do i intend to. i never turn it on. i don't own any cds and i'm not interested in the radio stations. it's just important, for some reason, that that thing is there. it's existence and presence in my apartment in and of itself is the manifested expression of the radio station i'm listening to, the radio, at least that part of it that is there merely to act as a mental reference point to the radio, to itself, to the essence of the here and now that is the true raw nature of time as it would otherwise be forgotten in the false context of memory. there is no music that is richer than this. there is no signal stronger than silence as all sound is contained within it. everything is enchanted by silence. the strength of an existences enchantment is measured by the strength of its silence. this is true for all of existence including within the context of music as expressed in the wake of silence.

Posted by: i agree on 03-17-08

revel is a coward on an ego trip. no argument there at all. i am you as you are he and you are me and we are all NOT -that- guy revel.

Posted by: . on 03-17-08

there's obviously a direct connection between time travel and the dimensions. when a person time travels the first thing that happens is that they effectively erase their original timeline, so there has to be somewhere for te traveller to be wen their originating timeline is gone, and that is the dimensions/dimensional existance, which is the same as the place refered to as the other side, which is accessable by degree of indisposal to physicality, of course. it i by order of the cessation of interest in the expression of the local timeline that the traveller is imparted visibility within this field, and this process may be expressed in varying degrees of speed. the traveller for example may wish to sift bulk from their observed expression or to purge it, perhaps in haste, which would lengthen the process, as more bulk would then be created while attempting to escape entropic gravity which no one can do on the other side or on this one.

Posted by: Emmanuel Teijeiro. Original creator of homestarrunner.com on 02-11-08

so i was like "i sure am the original creator of homestarrunner.com and i don't give a fuck who your two brothers think they are". and that was that.

Posted by: frog on 02-08-08

in response to "black lentil"'s prattle about sporky:

dude, how are you going to say that it's SAD that a kid named after a plastic fork and spoon combination i ate parfaits from kentucky fried chicken with when i was the same age he was when we were both on the farm does better growing up in the mainstream, using a username that's just a ripoff of kira's, and an incoherent one at that, and expect to be taken seriously? i mean, by anyone intelligent, obviously you succeeded in shutting down the thread and making a spectacle of hipforums moderatorship, but that's beside the point. or is it. heh. nevermind. good job genius.

Posted by: post regarding revel's ego trip in zendik forums on 01-28-08

Revel: (clears throat) Everyone (in the context of this dicussion) IS Arol, and everyone else here for that matter. You ARE a weak masochistic conceited bitch, and a failure at life. I AM intelligent and confident enough not to bother wasting my time either advising or commanding you to "get some class" as I DO recognize the boundary between my responsibility and yours, and that IS the reality you have to face every day of your life, waking or sleeping. I AM the winner of that and any other existing argument for that matter, and I AM at this moment as these words are spoken, a better zendik than you, a better man than you, and a better person than you, BECAUSE my response to life is YES, to knowing that the one bearing the devils advocate excuse is the fool, the martyr, the retard, and the loser, being yourself, in that matter, of course. Cheers (to me). Blan.

Frog

Posted by: whats wrong with my name on 01-25-08

god IS us, and wether or not i care about you doesn't need to be ADVERTISED. this dilema is the foundation of the zendik cult, which is founded and led psychically by me simply because i bear that name, and am conscious of it's fallacy, and THAT's what's behind zendik. That's the whole thing.

Posted by: post regarding jyre on 01-25-08

the mistake failed zendiks, like jyre, for example, make, is trying to fix their identity. it sounds ridiculous unless you know how to take it into context but it's true and i've made the same mistake myself but i'm aware of it and caught myself while i was doing it so i'm not down talking myself or anyone else for that matter, i'm just telling it like it is. the name "jyre" means "i'm wasting my time at this very moment erroneously trying to fix my identity". that's actually what it means, its a combination of the words joker and liar. proof: personal ad this person posted. http://www.adultmatchdoctor.com/profile_jyre.html anyone who posts a personal ad is a joker and a liar.

-frog

Posted by: frog on 01-25-08

sup. i finally have contact information, for whoever's interested, I'm the person who's posted here as gurd, 5317, lick hitler, amnesia, , idiot, jargunjarg, i'm insane, and lemon's temple. Emmanuel Teijeiro, PO Box 113 Tinley Park IL 60477.

Posted by: frog on 01-25-08

this message is for the self righteous bullshitter going by the username JayzzMama at hip forums:

Yes I'm better than you, yes I'm confident about it, yes I'm right, and yes I win.

Posted by: idiot on 01-25-08

yeah man, no kidding, whats going on at zendik farm when i'm not there? who cares, man that's your own experience and responsibility, go to a hippy message forum for closure on your unresolved personal issues, yeah, right, exactly.

Posted by: frog on 12-22-07

something about kira prattling at hip forums about some guy who got his music equipment appropriated by zendiks who said you owe us rent when in reality what happened is that guy set that up deliberately as a donation and we all appreciated that, especially myself, the guy he ran down the basic functions of everything to, after which i left and made no further mental regard to the equipment the moment i walked out of the room, but the point is i would have talked to kira when she was there if i knew who she was but i didn't get to that information until after all the zendik threads at that forum were locked. anyway, hi again, kira, whoever you are now.

Posted by: lemonstemple on 12-02-07

jane says i got your nose

Posted by: lick hitler on 12-01-07

hmmm.. i like socks. whats up with that?

Posted by: i like boobs on 12-01-07

tits!

Posted by: ...and recreated it. on 09-20-07

Now it's locked.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/gibbsgroup/message/2

Posted by: hdrhistoryreport on 09-11-07

also, just for the record, i just deleted the gibbsgroup.

Posted by: hdrhistoryreport on 09-11-07

In the year 2000 I purchased a time machine from a mail order catalogue. I can't access the exact date in my memory at the moment but Steven Gibbs is the machine manufacturer and sales agent. All of my written journals at that time were destroyed. Successfully clearing the zero vector in the process of a given time jaunt involves ascension through Christ and "unibomber" consciousness for any chrononaut (time traveller). The "9/11" wtc bombing event served, in this timeline, as an escape route for an otherwise potential nuclear war. What I did was program the unit to "take me to a timeline where the wtc towers no longer stood". All further implications infused that statement. I am the original author of Herman Keypad's Disadvantage published and performed by Screwtape on Anthemunanthem, but not the reprise. This is neither a boast or advertisement, but an indication of a map point in my timeline, in correlation with the current survey of North Korean disarmament. The following url links to the yahoo group i created three months after the bombing to help track history of time machine usage in this timeline.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/thegibbsgroup/

Just for the record of having made this statement, I am also the original creator and writer of homestarrunner.com.

Posted by: on 08-28-07

i just ate lamb in stew. and i ate it for lunch. and i ate it with a salad fork. how's that for proper?

Posted by: Jeff on 08-27-07

My modest guest book has been commandeered by some proper artists. I should be thankful as its the only new content posted in a few years.

Posted by: 5317 on 08-26-07

..and i can assure you, FTNW, that i will NOT return to hip forums to "tell" you and the posse over there jack shit other than to call out the fact that fucktard hippies suck ass through a straw cuz they're always lookin for a pony but don't have the balls to face it.

Posted by: on 08-22-07

i love the new feeling

i see people walking

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i like to go stealin

the new feelin...

i like the new feelin
i see people walkin
i like to go stealin
i see people feelin
i like to go walkin
i steal people feelin
i feel people walkin
i like to go feelin

i feel people feelin
i feel people talkin
i feel people stealin
i like to go walkin...

Posted by: 5317 on 08-21-07

i understand the pull to be nitpicky. i've grown past the name calling issue, especially since i've been to the farm, because if someone is a fucktard or a moron or a dimwit that's the truth of it and i am empowered by that truth to express it without guilt, while being full aware that i'm only refering to myself, and the observance of self-defeating thinking and behaviour in others pisses me off to an equal degree, but in the context of this metaphoric fucktard principality being weeded out, i just don't see it that way.

my long enigmatic lack of identity is just another one of those nitpicky details, and i'm as of yet unable to release it but i chose the comment board of this website to pirate for the discussion because it is an antiquity of the era in question. the specific months were june july august and the better half of the month of september in the year 1993. no one on or off the farm will be able to help you identify me though, because i had no identity even when i was there. the name that i took when i arrived mysteriously dissolved on the spot. the members spoke amongst themselves about this guy who had that name but failed to recognize it when addressed by it as in amnesia. the reason this occured is because i'd been followed there by time cops, and every time i turned around, i omitted myself from the time circuit and disassociated with every last person i'd made any connection with within it. anytime i talked to anyone or vice versa, i was meeting them for the first time. this phenomenon continued from the moment i arrived to the moment i left, caused extraterrestrial intelligence accelleration as a side effect, compeltely freaked kyro (who at that time also bore a different name) out from the beginning, and later chen even though he was one of the people aware of what was occurring was alarmed by a wave of bizarre magical information that came out of nowhere indicating, initially, that two unidentified people would soon be killed by a hypnosis script reading "i am two", and although the message indicated that the targets were not farm members, it was very important to know who they were because the matter pertained to premeditated destruction in the immediate outerlying ring of the pylon and if something went wrong the targets could possibly be changed but not pardoned, meaning that since the message was recieved directly from me to him, those two alternates could have been us. fortunately, no such alteration occurred and two people in my family were killed by diseases. the reason the "i am two" assassination script didn't sink me personally is because i created it, when i was two years old, with conscious intention to kill those two people, but in order for it to work i couldn't hold an identity in that circuit beside the number two. it feels good to finally be one again, and i remember that name i went to the farm with, but it had no pronunciation, and any incorrect attempt to pronounce it executed a hypnotic disassociation command on the former i am two script. one of the primary concerns while this was going on is that i had murdered my parents, which would have resulted in what we refer to as deportation, but when the two pursuing time cops finally caught up to me they were trebor and ace, relieved to understand that i had a valid and necessary reason for doing what i did to the specific people who were revealed.

this information makes only the most microscopic approach at the answer to your question, but it's the best i can do. if you were there at that time, i'd a been the guy walking around acting like i was trying to think of a name. i was a good worker, i never burned the soymilk, the dogs were always barking at me because i was constantly "arriving", and thus being surrounded by barking dogs, which is common to newcomers, but for me it occurred several times daily and at a certain point i established a communication connection with some of the bewildered dogs, such as the goat herd guard dog who made attempts to simulate speech and formed a word or two on an occasion in my memory but i dont remember what it was.

Posted by: FTNW on 08-21-07

No, I'm not Kyro. I must ask though who are you and when were you at the Farm?
I'm not gonna come into your house and argue with you. I'm happy you had a positive experience at the Farm but I wish there were more people that had the same. Obviously three months is not enough time to see what is going on there. Please , if you do go back tell us at Hip Forums how your second ride was.
Anyway, the only issue I had with your posts was the calling of people fucktards, it's all in the past anyway.
Have a good one.

Posted by: gurd on 08-20-07

your quality of awareness to your own responsibility is admirable to whatever degree, sure, but i'm making no observation of the past. my statement is based solely on what i observe in the moment here on this board, which is very little, but it's enough to be worth a comment. the fucktards, ftnw, are the fucking retards, who have so many words with which to say nothing, by my own definition. to say that someone has a bad experience at zendik farm because they don't belong there in the first place is stating the obvious, and anything has the right to be a lie when it needs to be in whatever context within which it's a lie. i don't have to be high and mighty to express my understanding of this or any given thing, it's unfortunate, perhaps, for you, that you find the need to interpret it that way. what it all seems to come down to is that the discussion is nothing more than a degradation to an endurance contest for the last word, in which case my presence and participation are of no further use here...

this is completely out of character for me, but i'm going to make a quote because this caught my interest.

"my skils and art were beyond any zendik at the farm then or now"

the person i remember from there that might be able to get away with saying that honestly was kyro. i don't know what his name might be now, but if you're that person, no, things don't look quite the same around there minus your work, which we could argue was painful and depressing in its own right but certainly advanced from any zendik there now or then, whenever "then" is in reference to, some realm so far removed from where i've arrived on account of what was given to me by zendik, that all the shit talk about the other members just seems to me so obsurd, true as it may be, so what. i mean, i understand addressing faults, because that's the truth way, sure, but being hung up on them i dont understand in the context where it's their responsibility and not mine to follow through with ironing that stuff out or copping out and choosing not to, unless i'm there to help, but i'm not there, i'm the one just here to talk shit and be high and mighty, right? fine, you win. if i could be anywhere else but here i would be, you know. i mean, i'm not making any friends here, i'm just bein' carved for defending zendik over the issue of confusing confidence for arrogance, but that's fine because... *shrug* I'm happy you're here. I agree with you about Wulf in the sense that I think he was masochistic and ill, we're on the same page there, but i respect his efforts... i'm saying that i'm seeing past people's faults. if we're fucktards or if it's just me, i can see that as an obstacle or i can see it for what it is, wow, i love myself so much, what a high and mighty freak i am, huh?

the people at zendik recognized me as another human being because i did the same for them, in being myself and not trying to be any one of them, in respecting myself first, that's how i was recognized and accepted there, as a core member of my own self, and that's how community works by its true definition. we understand that I don't have to explain or prove this to anyone but myself. you were one of those people, to refresh [I]my own[/I] memory, if you are who i'm guessing you might be here, and for that hint my reception has improved..

the idea of not being able to express my art when i was at the farm was not an issue for me. my interest there was in farming. that's why i was there, and yes i ate very well because that was also my interest and that's why i was there. my artistic niche before i came to the farm was songwriting, but nothing came to me in that element while i was at the farm and that wasn't a problem because thats not why i was there. some people knew this about me, one of which was arol, and she never trashed me about it, unless i'm not clear on the definition. i was never informed by anyone either directly or peripherally that my art was an invalid product of the deathculture. i was informed, on the other hand, that it was in fact valid and a product of a very benevolent and creative part of my being. i wrote songs, and i gave them away, and people published them and got rich while i got stuck in the social security circuit where i remain to this very day, and I've got nothing to complain about. I don't consider myself a martyr. I take care of myself, and i can still hear my work on the radio and such. i guess i allegedly have money somewhere according to information relayed to me by trebor way back in 94 but how i'm supposed to access it is apparently a complete mystery, and it doesn't matter, i'll cross that road if and when i come to it, and it was the inspiration of zendik that allowed it all to happen in the first place, so i'm not completely clear on where you're coming from with that "your art is shit" line, because i know darn well it is, but to a lot of people in that shit realm it was gold and enlightenment and a way out, as much as yours or wulfs was, it was created out of love, not selfishness or a desire for money, and that's what made it what it was and is, and it [I]was[/I] all tranformative.

my only problem seems to be that i'm so poor i can't manage to figure out how to get to zendik farm on my own autonomous leg... that's the one i'm still working on.. if and when i do make it, i'm not going to be holding grudges in regards to who's sleeping with who any more than i did back then, as i'll most certainly have more productve things to do with my time, thankyouverymuch, and i don't have the impression that arol is lying to anyone, my observation and experience is that she's pretty straightforward all around, so i'm not clear on where you're coming from with that other than the generic tendency people in the world have of blaming eachother for their own lies, which is fine, i mean, that's where it's at, i've been prone to it myself. i could be wrong, of course, but i don't currently see any genuine supporting evidence outside the suspension of your word against mine on that issue.

...so is that what i was supposed to say? or was i supposed to just play along and be like "yeah man, zendik, what a bum trip, i was lied to too, they fucked me and took my hamster", and then reveal that we both remote viewed this conversation one day at the farm fourteen years ago while i was wiping the sweat bullets off my brow in the heat of my own emerging sanity? i could have summed this whole thing up with the word "whatever" or dropped it entirely and went out for a beer. so who did i just do all this for? my good looks? chumley doright? i see, very well, point taken, well goodbye then.

just to say it, because i like to say things just to say them sometimes, you wont succeed in herding me off the farm with post zendik and emphasis on harsh reality, why, because this much we've both learned about eachother, whoever you really are, it doesn't matter, that we are far evolved and removed from taking things at face value.

amen.

so what about "lying"? i lie too, it's part of being true, i'm not oblivious to the definition of active truth, my newbie stay lasted three and a half months and the only backstabbing i witnessed/experienced was my own which was right about when it was figured out that i was distracted by personal agendas and didn't belong there at that time. i was very happy to be there until it made sense to leave, and i wrote out a letter explaining the reason for it as if it wasn't obvious but i needed to do that at the time to help myself organize my own thoughts. my time and experience there was most eternally appreciated, as confusing for me by my own error as it was, i never blamed my problems on someone else, on the farm or in the world. i never wasted my time doing this. so go ahead and throw the rest of whatever bullshit about the farm you think you have on me out or call out whatever else you feel i'm not aware of, i'll still see through it and defend the integrity of zendik farm in my own observation and experience, which, granted, was a mere three and a half month stay against your thirty years or whatever, but it's not a contest for me. if what zendiks do is over someone's head they don't have to be there, i understood it but left for personal reasons. i had to burn out a drug habit and a smoking habit and write another three hundred songs and disarm north korea and whatever it was that i had to do because i was still crazy, before i could honestly approach my interest in being there. no one there made any effort to program it out of me, control my thinking, or fucking. when i encounter these allegations i'm neither perplexed or offended by them, i understand their root, and that helps me sleep, and what else is there to say besides blah blah blah now then? there's far more to zendik than its current location and collection of people living on it, and confining the discussion to that or the idea that every individual that's been there and left is an emotioally and spiritually injured veteran is really dumb, because I'm not one of those people, which infuriates you to shatter your bubble on the issue I suppose, to go along with the game or story maybe, and I'm certain I can't possibly be the only one, but maybe there's a metphysical rule that says this information is supposed to be processed, not published, so don't quote me on that because i never said a word of it. what makes this a lie is my ability to edit my posts here, but i've found a way around this.

Posted by: I'm Insane on 07-16-07

A cover of "Stain" by sir Curt of Cobain is now stuck in my brain with a train and a chain and some grain in a cane, in the rain, what a pain, if it were to remain, but it goes down the drain, cuz I mailed it to Spain, to Elaine, and to Jane, her great dane and her crane, who'll be slain by aunt Shane next Beltane, Dave Mustane.

Posted by: Spiteful One on 07-15-07

It is great to hear Violent Apathy playing out again. It brought me back to the days of the Kalamazoo hardcore scene. I recall such memorable shows as Naked Raygun and Spite at the WMU East Hall Gym, or the Fake Necros Gig at the blackspot. Whatever happened to Bill Axe who used to play with Spite? He palayed with Rolling Head then what? Scotty Boman Ran for Leutenant Governor (and lost).

Well at least Tommy Fuller is still keeping the spirit alive, Kenny knott never quit. Richard Bowser proves Spite right when they sang "Bowser Rules!"

Posted by: anonymous on 05-13-07

what exactly possessed you to paint such a thing like this? you should burn in hell.

Posted by: Guh 3 on 05-11-07

I believe Radio Caroline was from East Lansing, pre-Nirvana era, playing what used to be called "college rock". One might try the record store "Flat, Black & Circular", if they're still in operation, but I don't think they ever did a CD. Vinyl maybe.

Posted by: Colin on 04-04-07

Please add me as a friend to my new myspace music site.
Only one song up now, but more will be comming soon.
www.myspace.com/colinebradford

Posted by: Jeff on 04-01-07

Um, I could try writing Toolmaster from Phil A Sheo, but he is infrequently online and lives in Sweden.

Posted by: Fred249x on 03-30-07

So I played a show with Phil A. Sheo & the Goods a long time back in Chicago at a bowling alley. My friends girlfriend bought the cd but they broke up and I was thinking about this song on the end of the album. Anyway, if there's anyway to get me a copy of that album, It'd be so much appreciated. Thank you.

Posted by: Jeff himself on 03-10-07

Hi Chris, I've never even heard of Radio Caroline so I'm pretty sure I wasn't in the band. I never played with beans, although I did play with his drummer, Karl Faulhaber and his bass player Ryan. I wouldn't mind hearing that tape myself. Thanks!

Posted by: Chris Felax on 03-09-07

Where can I get Radio Caroline on CD or mp3? I used to love that tape and Glen Wiseman got me a copy back in 1991! Jeff, I didn't even realize you were in the band! I found your site via Al Wiseman's site via looking for Glen's email address in Google. Take care - www.shrubslicer.com

Posted by: nap time galaxy on 02-15-07

Herman Keypad Band!

Posted by: Lick Hitler on 02-03-07

when we ran out of monkeys we were all upstairs and we couldn't lick us in the dark dark night when my simulation was a sweetheart stop you better get up get up get up and lick hitler

get up get up get up and lick hitler, baby get up get up get up and lick hitler get up get up get up and lick hitler, baby get up get up get up and lick hitler

in the afternoon and in the aftermath they call the evenin' time and say "where's my dinner" better get your racks and all the stuff to say you better say the world... um...

get up get up get up and lick hitler, baby get up get up get up and lick hitler get up get up get up and lick hitler, baby get up get up get up and lick hitler

Posted by: Jargunjarg on 01-20-07

Listen, it's not a d, it's a j. Goj. Do you understand that?

Posted by: Amnesia on 01-17-07

I still don't remember anything.

Sup Colin.

Posted by: evaofaz on 01-01-07

jajao 207-313-2604
backyard 122 ready

Posted by: Joby on 12-23-06

Thanks Jeff . . .

Posted by: Tilll on 12-22-06

Hey, you've got a guitar and a haircut. YOU release a good record ;)

Posted by: Joby on 12-21-06

Ohhh Ohhh I'm in a news update . . . Fuckin Rad . . . Now, for christ sakes will somebody put out a good record???? Anybody????

Posted by: j01101010 on 12-14-06

BC, thanks for the link. Holy tukkas Chris's stuff is cool...
http://www.myspace.com/christopherleesimmonds

Posted by: Animal on 11-29-06

1988. Duh.

Posted by: Animal on 11-29-06

Hey, kids, it's your semi-annual blast from the past here. Last time I stopped by, I was on a nostalgia kick; went out hunting for a bunch o' folks but apparently the GeniusDesecratistrys and Spoonbenders and Liverboxes either don't remember who I am or don't much give a crap, which that's cool, I don't remember who I am or give a crap either, so we're of a mind on that score...kinda bummed that nobody put the message board to use though, could have been a good way for folks to keep up with each other.

ANYWAY

This is the ONLY way that ANYBODY knows of having a snowball's chance in hell of tracking down Senor Oberlin's ex-wife Carla the Dubbayew, who also happens to be a classmate of mine from string orchestra going back to second grade...and a 1998 graduate of portage northern. We're planning a reunion, and nobody knows where to get in touch with her to send the invitation. So someone let her know we're out looking for her. I can be reached via john at lowgenius dot com.

By the way, if anyone happens to remember Jason Gentry, who I played with in the opening band, Axis, at the first of what would eventually become Kalapalooza, he died. Bummer.

Posted by: Jeff himself on 11-27-06

Send your message to brent to me at jeff @ tasmlab.com and I will forward to him.

Posted by: BC on 11-25-06

Don't know about how to contact Brent, but Christopher Lee is easy to get ahold of. His new music rocks, too:
http://www.myspace.com/christopherleesimmonds

Posted by: Limbonik on 11-20-06

Does anyone know how to contact Brent? I have an old 4-track mp3 of Desecrator but for the life of me I cannot recall it's name. Or at the very least does someone have a song list of Desecrator songs?

Posted by: Jeff again on 10-19-06

... and fellows D. Austin Nash and Craig Verity are in 12th and 11th place respectively

Posted by: Jeff himself on 10-19-06

Brent is in my fantasy football league. He's in second place, actually right after TI alum Mike Roche. I'm in ninth place, or third to last, despite have a good quarterback and an excellent WR core.

Posted by: Jen DoorKnob on 09-28-06

Does anybody know where Brent Oberlin is and what he is up to nowadays? I know he has a new band Cosmonaut, but does it even exist anymore?

Posted by: Jonny Roadkill on 05-19-06

Will somebody give Jared a shout in NEW MEXICO???
Yeah New Mexico of all the fucking places that boy ends up...snackin' on paote buttons and running from bears in a porkchop belt. Seems hes landed/coned his way into being Ted Turners big cheese....(in a porkchop belt) fucker
jonnyroadkill@alamedanet.net

Posted by: TCV on 05-16-06

Thanks, Jeff. Nice to find links without kinks. Gotta get in the shower and head to work. I hate me a little, too, Scott. But, I love me more. lol.

Posted by: Rhianna on 05-04-06

that wus sooooooo sweet. i wish my man could do it like dat

Posted by: Scott on 04-30-06

"Your Drunk Drunk Secretary [Gave me head.]"

That made me lol. I hate myself.

Posted by: Ted Snakes on 04-23-06

Glad to see we're mentioned even if it's at the end of the list.Our original drummer Thunder Snakes passed last year.Very sad. We're doing a tribute show in a few months at a local place called the Kraftbrau.When we said T-Snakes forever we ment it!!! Cut the crap& keep rockin'- Ted

Posted by: tcv on 04-20-06

The Fantastic Asshole [I've known some of them. I think I am one.]
The Little boy who... [never grew up?]
How to fight a girl [But, she's like 5'12" and 280lbs!]
Lost in the parking lot [Man, I'm too high.]
The Model of my Affection [Whatever after enough tequila.]
The Hospital in the Ocean [I felt like I couldn't breath there. Not a good place.]
Stupid Yesterday [And today.]
Your Drunk Drunk Secretary [Gave me head.]

These are the broken links. There may be more, Idunno. Please, fix 'em.

Posted by: Jeff on 04-19-06

Which link doesn't work?

The updates are so lame because I'M so lame. BUT the record I've been working on since 2003 is still moving along. I bought new brushes.

SPeciaAL Treat: Original Thought Industry member DR. DAN ROE (OK, DESECRATOR, so really original TI) will be doing sessions at my new studio this weekend. Maybe there will be some output posted here from that!

The Kzoo music site will be out this fall it at all.

Thanks for your post!

Posted by: TCV on 04-17-06

Jeff, where's a progressunprogress report? Four months and no news. I don't believe it. And when do we get new tunes? And what's with the broken links to the midi files? I like to sing along to your stuff. You know that. And when is someone going to post some of the music from the rest of kalamazoos gods and goddesses? And, don't forget to give us some news, honky.

Posted by: sarrah on 04-08-06

such a sexy lady and man is kissing her like mad i love it

Posted by: Till himself on 04-07-06

I wasn't there for that night. I was at Kinkos working. But I've heard the story so many times that I start to remember being there, wearing my Harvey's dollar pitcher hooked to my belt/pinkie.

Posted by: on 04-07-06

Umm... Brent Oberlin's fat.

Posted by: enemencio123/256 on 04-03-06

yeah...

these pictures are great

Posted by: enemencio123/256 on 04-03-06

...whoa!!!
what the fuck man...
i mean i'm on the brink of something breathing on my back... i think i better learn how to really quick before they find me... thanks now i'm learning to learn...

Posted by: on 03-31-06

i love these pictuers

Posted by: TCV on 03-27-06

Ogg Vorbis, Mp3 or whatever would be super-rad, awesome, spectacular. Someone, please, make it happen. I'll choke on my own excrement if I have to listen to much more of the shite on 103.3. K-zoo, Show Me Your Tits!

Posted by: enemencio on 03-20-06

oh yeah...
my e-mail is ep123256@hotmail.com

Posted by: enemencio123256 on 03-20-06

brent oberlin fuckin RULES!!!

he is by far the most original and creative
force in modern music today...

shortwave on a cold day is a masterpiece...

best wishes to brent...
from enemencio 123

Posted by: jui on 03-13-06

jui oppo

Posted by: Sahlgren on 03-12-06

My email address is mattsahlgren@yahoo.com
...clever, huh?

Posted by: Scotty on 03-11-06

For what it's worth, yeah totally I think the Kzoo mp3 site would be fantastic.

Posted by: Randy on 03-09-06

I am an artist and have always lived in Kentucky. I am not poor and wasn't when I attended a state university college. What a challenge to live in a state with such stigmas attached to it.

Posted by: Craig on 03-08-06

Mattchew! Whats your e-mail address?

Posted by: Joe Lawless on 03-08-06

I like the Kzoo mp3 site as well. It would be neat to have a then and now section. Post old tunes/performances and then perhaps something more recent. Coax Halsey into an acoustic number from his Portland nest, for instance.

Posted by: Sahlgren on 03-08-06

A Kzoo mp3 site's a great idea. There's a Sinatra's CD that's been completed but who knows if it'll see the light of day...
FAQ stuff, a complete unreleased Doxie album, Twitch singles... shit, how about "jaundice baby"?

Posted by: Jeff himself on 03-01-06

I am considering a Kzoo MP3 site (I have my own web server) that should have everything for Kzoo iPods. It sounds like there would be at least a little interest. I would need to collect permission from the musicians first. I guess I would be a good guy to go around and do that...

Posted by: TCV on 02-28-06

Me, too!!!

Posted by: Allyson on 02-24-06

Now that I have entered the iPod world, I need some help getting some more Kzoo stuff: Genius Hired Guns, Dead River Drag, and Cosmonaut. Anyone?

Posted by: danny on 01-26-06

very interesting piece

Posted by: Budao Li on 01-22-06

Ayn Rand snuck in my window many summer nights during my stay in monestary. I listenned to too much world radio and bbcnn. Crackers are dumb everywhere. I missed that sound: the kazoostank stench like assholes in my earholes. Michigan is drenched in january -- all hail dat G, wB for excellent environmental policy. Fuck a Captain Planet, peanut! The zoo has an anal animated film festival these days. Does that mean we have anibaters here, too? Could add fresh blood to old vampires. Did anyone ever make music in the zoo that might have fucked up the M&M munchin', fallout toys flocks with an accompanying cartoon videotrack? The bible belt should be eatin' THD for breakfast right now, but the closet fruits are suckin' up Nipple Back. My cuntree - I like the way that looks - is more backward than ever I can remember and I put that on the shoulders of every one of you Genius Hired Overem. Brats and Buggers, the lot of you. This is your nation to hold at point and then not give a fuck for, not the other way about. Balls, boys. The birds got more than you. Primes aren't for cosmosnuts. Bend folds in their brains that we might stick more wires in. It's good for them. They like it. I want that shit back. Can we make the song thick with story like chocolate sex smut stinking sweathog chewy sweet stuff? ungh. Makes my mouth dry. Wrap the world in epics of burning skys; drunken boat trips for the burnt out; chasing god's spiders off the moon on bicycle -- red steeds for the coyboys -- and include pictures for the passers by this time so they may see what you're all screamin' about. Motion pictures.
It might be worth a couple note$. Fuggin' Phill Collins sold his soul to satan to do cartoons and his songs aint got half the color of the shit you kids have smeared on tape, disc and ipod.

Posted by: Kalamazoo Discussion Board... on 01-18-06

All right, I did it. http://talk.lowgenius.net/default.asp?C=20 Register, post, talk, if you know how to reach people, reach 'em and point 'em here. Got something going on? Shill it there. Looking for someone? Look there. Spread the word (and huge, huge props to OverJeff for finally getting *something* on teh internets that would respond to a google search for "four peace"!) Don't know who I am? Cool with me - if you were in the 'zoo, the board's for you.

Peace,
Animal

Posted by: Till again on 01-18-06

Nash is still here in Boston, currently learning to snowboard. Toolmaster was here in the states in Dec, but was most likely on a pretty strict family regimine as his wife and baby (Miller, 9 months old) don't get back to the states often (I'm guessing).

Posted by: Till himself on 01-18-06

By gum, Matt, my youngin is five months old too. Born 7-23-05. Congratulations!

The band REA sounds great. It was my first time hearing them. I'll post a link.

HI Craig, Hi Matt. I miss you both as well. Only 10 more years until our silver reunion.

BTW, TCV's post was the best I've ever read.

Posted by: Sahlgren on 01-17-06

Yup, a boy. 5 month old Quinn Everly Sahlgren. Perfect, healthy, happy but teething. I either put the band on hold or I quit, they haven't decided yet. I guess Tony's holding some kinda' grudge. It's not like he didn't see it coming. I just can't be practicing twice a week and then playing til all hours. I don't wanna' be a part-time dad, y'know?
The website is still there but it's outdated. www.reatunes.com
You know Karl Knack had a little girl?

Posted by: Verity on 01-15-06

Sahlgren, do you have a kid now? I would like to know how you are and whats up. Miss you, miss Jeff, miss drunken Club Soda shows. Showed my girlfriend the Soda show. We were drunk. Looked like we had fun. Love you man.

Posted by: Sahlgren on 01-15-06

Jeez, I ain't thought about this stuff in awhile. T'sup, Till? Verity? Nash? Has anyone heard from or about the Toolmaster? I know he's married and living in a foreign land but that's it.

Posted by: TCV on 01-14-06

The golden age of Kalamazoo's music scene set to break out instead broke up. Our platinum talent turned aluminum scrap when all got too fat and alcoholic. These days the zoo sound all damp moldy -- no ballads for bugs or un/anthems complex and disturbing. These kids all tame -- docile pets of the keepers -- wouldn't bite at a fly. My zoo's full of sleepers. I hate you all as much as I love you -- making deals with the devil; growing up / giving up. Sure, you escaped from the zoo, but you let them first beat the wild out of you. What a waste of the great to let rift-raft nirdvanas and verve pips take crowns while you lions and tigers got grey-haired, made babies, got drunk and skipped town. I'd sail away, drive the bus off the bridge, make out with gutter corpses, sleep with baby Jesus in Bronson Park -- I just want the music back -- my zoo is too dull, grey -- a sniveling beast in the dark. For fuck's sake.... ahhh fuck it. I need a beer. I love you guys, but you all really suck.... and my tooth hurts.

Posted by: Animal on 01-03-06

Don't think I remember Dave. Couldn't possibly forget the 4Peace house! Got this nostalgia jones kickin hard now...I'm gonna put something up on one of my sites in a week or two and I'll buzz back through to point everyone in that direction. It won't "put the old band back together," but it should put some people in touch who have been out for a while (like me!)...

Seeya soon.
-jh

Posted by: Jeff again on 12-31-05

Thanks for the time travel, John. Here's a picture of Dave at a Four Piece party (we don't have to remember, even if you don't remember Dave or the party) Dave at 4piece

Posted by: Jeff on 12-31-05

Speaking of Johnny with an Eye, I saw Verve Pipe's the Freshman listed as a track on K-Tel's "Most awesome Alternative Power Ballads", advertised on late night cable.

Posted by: Animal (redux) on 12-21-05

I remember ol' Johnny With An Eye, they won that f'n thing by playing 'The Sounds Of Silence,' remember that? In case you're having trouble remembering (and we jammed like once when 'freebird' altman had that thing going at the old fruit company...you and me and bogema, as I recall)...that battle of the bands? I was the drummer in the 2nd place outfit, the ones that did all the buttmetal (tmDustin) covers. St A's at the first downtown new year's thingie. Name of the band was 'Push.' A million others, too..even before that was 'Ucidian' with that black dude Terry who I saw a few years back got out of prison and told Marci Persky he'd been on some nature-hike in Uganda...first 'real band' I can remember was me, Spaeth, and a cat named Rob Singleton on Bass in...hell, probably 1985 or 6? Maybe earlier. It all blurs together, especially after spending several years drinking with Matt Bogema (I'm guessing he's lost what little hair he had left last I saw him, which was like 10 years ago, if he's even still alive).

If anyone ever talks to Spaeth (if *he's* still alive...mortality rate among musicians is too high, dammit) tell him Animal said 2 things: 1: What the hell ever happened to Darin Thomas? 2: Ask him if he still remembers how to play 'Looks That Kill' (yes, THAT Looks That Kill).

I'm an old bastard now. My daughter's older than I was when I did that BotB. Lots of lost memories and lost health due to the ravages of lifestyle poisoning, k'zoo-style...but damn, what a great, great time. Remember all those parties @ the 4peace house on westnedge? Like the 60s, if you remember you weren't there...

If nothin' else, thanks for a poignant lil trip down memory lane, Jeff. *sigh* I guess a lotta people have parted ways and soap operas galore and whatever, I probably got out of town at the right time. Peace and good will to all the people that used to be my life. Anyone wants to fill me in on the last decade of 'zoolife, drop me a line, john@ lowgenius dot com

Posted by: Animal on 12-21-05

Damn, all these people I haven't seen in years...wanna hear something cool?

I still have a FAQ 'Liverbox' shirt.Red, White, Green. No sleeves though.

Ergo, I am cooler than you.

John 'Animal' Dejong, perpetual fixture on the 'zoo scene 1984-1994 (who still thinks a Desecrator reunion needs to happen)

Holla. www.lowgenius.com

Posted by: TI fan on 12-10-05

Its December 10th.

Where else can I post this?

Posted by: Patrick 12-7-05 on 12-07-05

HEY FARKAS!! give Jared your phone # will ya?
his is510-205-3886

Posted by: Jeff on 12-06-05

Craig, it isn't nice to call Kevin's band gay.

Posted by: Craig on 12-01-05

Hey Farkas, you still in that gay spoon band? when are you making it down San Diego way?

Posted by: farkas on 12-01-05

hey jar, have you been fired from Ozumo yet? if not, let me know. i work 3 blocks from you on market.

much love to all my friends.

Posted by: zack on 11-26-05

this is desturing

Posted by: Jar on 11-19-05

I'm a hamslice.

Posted by: Charles Bradford on 11-09-05

You had a baby? Congratulations Jeff.
An incredible experience is about to begin.

Posted by: Paddy Cakes! on 11-02-05

Jared does not suck...he BLOWS!!

On a different note....Jeff...a) what would be your thoughts on Jared and I pitching" Cubical Nose picker" to some theater producers? b) how long for you to write a screen play?
Hope all is well in beantown.
Patrick Bryant p.s. I got Jonny tattooed on my calf.

Posted by: Jar on 10-27-05

I suck.

Posted by: Jar on 10-27-05

I meant "wife" and child...I apologize...I'm drunk and ready for bed.

Posted by: Jared on 10-27-05

Jeff...you are so lucky. I love you and your family. Be the best for your and child.
Jar

Posted by: Scott A on 10-26-05

Jeff and Fam-
The world is a better place...congrats on the arrival of Adelaide.
-Scott & Fam

Posted by: missy j on 10-26-05

jeff...missy j here sister of ex-pat toolmaster. went searching for some phil a sheo stuff and found this! very cool...odd to google and find your bro unintentionally! hope your well...very cool site.

Posted by: Evan Smith on 10-26-05

This is for Jeff,

Wow.... you type "Feedbag" and "Kalamazoo" into a search engine and you get this. I love the site Jeff and have visited it several times over the past few years. My brother has several of the Feedbag shows broken down as MP3s. Please write if you are interested in checking this out. yitgs@yahoo.com.

Evan

Posted by: Jeff himself on 10-23-05

Thanks Alison! Its been wonderful so far.

Posted by: steve martin's wife on 10-21-05

Congrats on the baby, life will never be the same (in a good way).

Posted by: cosmin on 10-17-05

sal

Posted by: on 09-19-05

too funny

Posted by: My (purely platonic) Man Love For Till on 08-21-05

Till,

The Record Came!!!

OH SWEET CHRIST THANK YOU!!!

*bows*

Joby

Posted by: vini on 08-14-05

hey i don't know what i'm doing cause i'm just 9 years old anyways whatever you wrote i hope it's a sucsess in the future anyways do you write farytales if you do please do send me 1 at v _ clare01@hotmail.com
i will visit this site more often

Posted by: vanita clare on 08-14-05

i really liked the begin

Posted by: Devon on 08-12-05

Right on, you made a short film! I remember you making tale of doing such a thing many moons ago. Good to see one on the site, and a damn fine 'film-student-art-film' it is!
Keep 'em coming.

Posted by: Joby on 08-11-05

Hear our new art-pop song at
http://www.myspace.com/oceansofregret

"Lake Effect"

Joby

Posted by: Steve on 08-10-05

That new stuff from Chris is pretty amazing. I can't wait to hear the rest of it!

Posted by: Joby on 08-09-05

I heard some Swedish label was going to release it (Seriously) if they don't I will . . .

By the way Jeff have you got while the getting is good because I'm going to take it all down.

Joby

Posted by: Jeff on 08-07-05

I'm not sure if this matters, but I'm not sure 'Birds' is 'officially' 'released' yet i.e., I'm not sure if Bryers has willfully bestowed it onto the world.

He should, though.

Posted by: Paulie on 08-05-05

I would really appreciate any kind soul who might have the willingness to share a CD-R burn of "Birds" - I'm sure others would benefit from the further distribution of this certain masterwork. Sleet and twitch still get plenty of spins over here, and I always wanted to see a full length effort from Knives are Quiet... please share the
wonderment here on one of the few remaining forums for prime-era Kzoo natives, thanks!

Posted by: Paulie on 08-05-05

Here's some discussion regarding Chris Bryers' "Birds" amongst other thangs:

http://leppotone.com/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=45&func=view&id=665&catid=7

Posted by: Scott A on 08-03-05

Hey..when are you going to launch a TASM Lab podcast?

Posted by: Joby on 08-03-05

SHIT!!

"The" Watcher

Posted by: Joby on 08-03-05

I am watcher

Rejoice and sing your task is done

Posted by: Scott A on 08-02-05

Jeff..Diggin' the Fuck, Fuck, Fuck video. Great use of iMovie's Lightening Bolt feature! I'll need to watch the duck/geese movie a few more times to fully grasp it...especially since I enjoyed dim sum in Orange County's Little Saigon just yesterday.

Posted by: Jeff on 08-02-05

I'm in love with a KooKoo bird myself. And I agree that everyone else should be too.

Posted by: jim cherry on 07-29-05

part 2 P.S.
oh yeah... the TOOL MASTER has been running around naked & drunk in sweden too... so not much has changed for Joel. He still has a 40 oz in one hand and a smoke on the other. In fact he's still wearing that BUNCA car wash hat to cover up his ever growing bald spot. you gotta LOVE that kid. He's the BEST!!! Now he's a Daddy...

Also: (and i'm gonna get killed for this but....)
if you have'nt heard CHRIS BRYERS (twitch/sleet) latest solo CD titled "Birds" you are missing out on one of BEST CD's I've heard in many moons. this kid writes some of the best pop songs I've heard in years and I'm not just saying that cuz he blows me once in a while.... this is a brilliant record. Every person i play it for loves it! And you can't get any more indie than making a CD in your bedroom on a computer and then only making 5 copies for your friends to hear but noone else. so... he's gonna kill me for writing this but you GOTTA hear this CD. if you want a copy i guess ask bryers but I'll burn one for you if you can't find him or talk with him. CHECK IT OUT!!!! you'll dig it for sure.

Posted by: jim cherry on 07-29-05

i have the TOOL MASTERS (joel johnson) address in SWEDEN or E-mail if you want it. e-mail me at worldwirelessfilms@yahoo.com and I'll give it to whoever wants it. Joel just had a BABY GIRL!!! and he is rocking the fuck out of SWEDEN.

Posted by: Leigh T. on 07-26-05

Does anyone have email/info on the Toolmaster? I need to check and make sure that he's not still trying to ride his bike naked to the store to buy beer...

Posted by: Jared on 07-24-05

Oh what a treat. I just wanted to let Jeff know that I am doing fine, and that I am eating well. I can be reached at OZUMO.COM Thanks for the friendship over the years Jeff...Jar

Posted by: Jared on 07-24-05

The sides of my mouth are white with crab run-off.

Posted by: Jared on 07-24-05

You think I'm kidding. The chopsticks can't really grab the amount of crab I am stuffing into my mouth.

Posted by: Jared on 07-24-05

I am eating crab by the spoonfulls, at 3:00 AM in the morn.

Posted by: Steve on 06-20-05

Those damn ads are getting annoying. Why am I still seeing them?

Posted by: Joby on 06-16-05

Long time no visit I see there is in fact a mini till congrads jeff . . .

Now Thing and Nothing 3, Fuck 2 seqals suck

Joby

Posted by: Jeff on 06-16-05

Stupid robots keep coming here and posting hundreds of messages about online po ker and other stuff. I think I've stopped the last onslaught.

Posted by: jeff on 06-16-05

I like to play poker

Posted by: Craig on 06-09-05

not sure whats going on Jeff, I've been getting e-mails from everyone but you. This is sad.

Posted by: Jeff on 06-09-05

I get your messages, but when I reply to cgverity@juno.com it bounces back as undeliverable.

Posted by: Craig on 06-08-05

No I am not! But you got mine, so what the?

Posted by: Jeff on 06-08-05

Craig, are you getting my e-mails? They keep getting bounced back to me.

Posted by: Craig on 06-01-05

Great job Jeff! I'm glad you are thin again. If I could just get back the body I had when I was 24 or better yet the stamina I had in Screwtape, I would be golden.

Posted by: steve martin's wife on 05-23-05

Steve, I just emailed you.

Posted by: on 05-23-05

Hey Jess...Hope you are well! XXOO Jar

Posted by: Steve on 05-20-05

Speaking of that Twitch demo, I just found a copy at the Goodwill store on Stadium last Saturday! I wish I could somehow burn these songs on a CD. Does anyone know how to do that without an actual CD recorder component hooked up to a stereo system?

Posted by: jess fairlamb on 05-19-05

hey jared bryant. been wondering about you for years.

Posted by: Jared on 05-16-05

Well...the first week of employment seems to be OK. We had the first lady of Tiawan in the restaurant with all of her Glock-toting service freaks. Love and hugs...until I lose my mind again and move to Iraq. Jar

Posted by: Patrick.San Francisco,via Kazoo on 05-12-05

Thank Jonny that Jar got a job!

Posted by: Jar on 05-12-05

I am given to run a restaurant. If anyone is in San Fran...I skipped the Ireland death trip, for the San Fran sushi gig. Please come visit if you are in town. Sincerely, Jred...Ozumo.com...peace and harmony abound in the fuzzypumperbarborshop...congrats Jeff and Jen...May daipers fill your closet, and happiness be a mop. You deserve great and wonderous babies.

Posted by: on 05-10-05

home repair contractor

Posted by: David on 05-06-05

As someone who used to walk downtown and see Great shows at 'soda, this site really takes me back. I have the Twitch demo still!

Posted by: on 05-03-05

discusting

Posted by: Jeffrey Till on 04-29-05

Hole is spelled hole BTW. A web search for Cinci comes up with no cinci cream website, and only one article about the inventor. Maybe you can find one on eBay

Posted by: Craig on 04-29-05

Do they even make Cinci anymore? I would love to get my hands on one of those for old times sake. That place had the coldest damn beer in town.

Posted by: Jeff on 04-29-05

I thought you meant "we used to play in that 'whole in the wall'", but I understand you mean the whole by the door and not the euphamism.

We would do anything for the handsome waiter ;)

Posted by: Verity on 04-28-05

That vanishing Kalamazoo is sort of cool. Missias is there. Our band used to play in that hole by the door.

Posted by: Craig on 04-21-05

Looking at that site I remember most of those flyers. The memories......

Posted by: Jeff Till on 04-20-05

You may host here if you want for free. We can make http://tasmlab.com/twitch or something. Maybe http://twitch.tasmlab.com/ I'll even encode the mp3's if you want. Write me at jeff@tasmlab.com if you are interested.

Posted by: steve martin's wife on 04-20-05

I guess web1000 isn't that great of a place to host a site. It works about 10% of the time-I'll find another place here soon.

-Allyson

Posted by: BC on 04-19-05

Make sure when you paste the link, you do not have an "l" on the end of .htm or it sends you to a bunch of random ads.
http://twitch.web1000.com/index.htm

Posted by: Jeff on 04-19-05

I can't get the twitch page to load. I just get smileycentral and other ads.

Posted by: Steve on 04-15-05

Great page. It brings back a lot of memories. I actually still have some of those old Friday inserts with the Twitch articles in them. Thanks for posting it!

Posted by: steve martin's wife on 04-14-05

I re-posted the old site that I used to have up, only sans music as I have dial up and everything takes 14 years to load. It is at http://twitch.web1000.com/index.htm

-Allyson

Posted by: Steve on 04-10-05

I don't necessarily need an original copy. It would just be great to have the music. Craig or Jeff, if either of you want to send me an email and arrange to send me a CDR, get ahold of me at ghostofthesun@hotmail.com. It would be much appreciated.

Posted by: Jeff on 04-09-05

I have a burned copy, but the original has long been lost. I think Dave's got an original one.

Posted by: Craig on 04-08-05

I'm sure I can burn a copy for you Steve. Jeff don't you have a copy anymore? I thought all of us must have recieved a promo from our label mates.

Posted by: Steve on 04-08-05

Thanks for the reply. I know for a fact that it's going to be very hard to come across since like I said, I've literally been searching for years in the Kalamazoo area and I haven't came up with anything. I doubt I would have much luck with any of the filesharing programs. I'll keep watching the board here and if anyone wants to share any of those tracks with me via email or otherwise, let me know. I'd really appreciate it. Also, Jeff or Craig - if either of you guys get in touch with anyone that is affiliated with Twitch or the members themselves, like you suggested Jeff, ask them about hosting the tracks here on TASM. Thanks!

Posted by: Jeff on 04-07-05

Its going to be really hard to find. You might need someone to burn it for you. Steve Martin's wife should put up a twitch site and post all of their music, or sell burned one-off's of their CDs on CD Baby.

Actually, I'd post their material with permission.

You might try the P2P networks. Or if you can find the boards related to oceans of regrets/usagainstall.

Posted by: Steve on 04-06-05

You wouldn't happen to know where I could find a copy would you? Actually, I wouldn't mind having either the cassette or the CD. I've been looking around Kalamazoo for years it seems. I remember buying it originally at Boogie way back, but I haven't seen it since.

Posted by: Craig on 04-05-05

Homewrecker? By Twitch? Yes, released on Depression Records.

Posted by: Steve on 04-04-05

Does anyone know if Homewrecker was ever printed on CD?

Posted by: Craig on 03-20-05

There might of been a buffet backstage, but I don't know if I ever found the backstage.

Posted by: Till himself on 03-16-05

There was a BUFFET? Are you sure it was 93? I think we played in the 92' edition (was there such thing?) which I don't remember having a buffet at all.

Posted by: Joe Lawless on 03-13-05

Geeze, when my band from Detroit played the '93 Kalapalooza it was the best time ever (up until that time). I regret not getting to the first buffet, however, as we were not a main stage band, and thusly had to settle for the 2nd buffet. But hey, no complaints.

I gave up the Internet jobs for poker-related jobs this past year. Better money, baby. Gamble up!

- joe

Posted by: Rockman on 03-02-05

Well, I'll try to tie these together... Auh-'Rykk, the scene fell apart with Jar going to Ireland after portland and after kzoo, both places where Karla and Craig have hung out. It was Brent's scene to start with. In fact, Kalapalooza was probably booked by him. But thanks so very much for coming to Kalapalooza. I'm sure there's a vibrant scene somewhere, but kzoo may only grow one every century or so.

Posted by: Craig on 03-02-05

Ireland? I hung with Brent and Karla in Ireland. If you go to Dublin, drink at the Queys and think of the three of us hammered and singing irish pub songs.

Posted by: Jared on 03-01-05

Nomatter how many jobs I hold...states I funk up with my goo...the Tasm site always makes me feel home. Thanks Jeff. Ireland's the next stop. Failure in Portland and then Seattle. The endless search for a sugar momma continues...Ireland houses many a tolerant wench...we'll see just how tolerant. Hi Jeff. I hope your 2005 is a triumph (not the band) Sincerely,
Jared (a.k.a. "touch&go" Bryant)

Posted by: Auh-'Rykk on 02-15-05

I am really happy that I was able to expierence Screwtape at Kalapalooza II. I went both nights and was just blown by the sound of that time in K-Zoo. I have yet to actually see anything that great or a scene in K-Zoo that energetic.

Now when ever I meet new people and they ask me about the local scene I hype it as much as possible. But I can't help but tell them that they are really late. Then go into the my CDs and grab the local stuff from the early to mid 90's and let them listen to what it was like.

Maybe someday we will see another creative force like Screwtape, King Tammy, Dead River Drag, Sleestacks, Sinatras, Thought Industry, and all of the others that I have seem to have forgotten already.

*sniffle* Keep it real gang!

Posted by: ben on 01-05-05

fuck it...my e-mail is benwessell@yahoo.com

Posted by: ben on 01-05-05

If Dave has a copy for sale i would definitely like to buy it. i'm just not sure how to contact him.is it safe to post my e-mail? or is there a more private way to go about it?

Posted by: Till himself on 01-05-05

I have a copy. IMO the best thing Dave and co have done. I suppose I could post a copy here if it were OK with Dave. Or he may still have one to sell.

Posted by: ben on 01-04-05

is there anyone out there with a copy of the dead river drag disc? i've been searching for quite some time now.

Posted by: Scott on 12-21-04

Internet is serious business Joby >:

Hi Jeff <3

Posted by: Joby on 12-04-04

Oh wait now that I read through the "Mass Content" again I see it's a mini joel not a mini Till oh well, congraduloations to Joel whom ever he may be . . .

Fuck I'm retarded

Posted by: Joby on 12-04-04

Hi Jeff Congrads on The impending mini Till.

Posted by: jj on 12-04-04

Hey Brent!Any hopes of Thought Industry coming back into existance?-big fan

Posted by: Craig on 11-22-04

Everyone say happy birhtday to Mr. Till, because it's nice to be remembered.

Posted by: Jeff himself on 11-19-04

yes, let us all be thankful for the toolmaster. Toolmaster is goodness.

Hi Brent! (send me a disc already!)

Posted by: Craig on 11-18-04

The Toolmaster's seed grows. Thank god for the Toolmaster.

Posted by: Brent Oberlin on 11-18-04

Hi Jeff...

Posted by: Elvis on 11-03-04

do people living in Toledo
Know that their name hasn't travelled very well?
And does anybody in Ohio
Dream of that Spanish citadel?

Posted by: Barb on 10-25-04

Didn't Bush break up though? Gavin was hot as hell!

Posted by: Soapy Cloth on 10-25-04

Typical angry, confused Bush supporter.

Posted by: Knotted Rope on 10-25-04

I hope that comment was just one of our friends horsing around. 'Cause if not you should stick it up you poo hole.

Posted by: Jeff on 10-25-04

Thanks for stopping by!

Posted by: Vote for BUSH on 10-25-04

Do you really think anyone gives a fuck if you went to a polo match or your sister bought a house. Get a life

Posted by: balloon knot on 10-22-04

TI is doubtful, and I know everything. Everything I tell you. Fuckheads.

Posted by: Joy K. on 10-22-04

I see on Cosmonaut's site that Brent has left the band...anyone know if he is planning to reform TI?

Posted by: Craig V. on 10-14-04

Just picked up John Denvers Definitive All-Time Greatest Hits and if he were still around I'd be voting for him.

Posted by: Dave G. on 10-13-04

You know it Colin!

Hope all is well in Chicago.

Posted by: Colin on 10-13-04

I mean Please vote for John Kerry, the world depends on it.

Posted by: Colin on 10-13-04

Everyone pleae vote for John Kerry!

Posted by: Derek from Beverly Hills on 10-02-04

Since I have been known to give EVH a run for his $$ on the ax, I will handle the 6 string duty. Pack up your skins and lets lite some picks on fire with Connon, Play some old Crue, pound out some old time tunes and share a cocktail. I want to jam and will travel, D$

Posted by: Till himself on 09-30-04

Wow! Hi Derek. An Eclipse tour may take some rearranging, as bands with two drummers are rare.

Posted by: Derek from Beverly Hills on 09-29-04

Jeff, good to read about your life. Ran into Scott A's parents tonight. Said to take a look at your site. Still playing Van Halen and hope to jam with Eclipse again, D$

Posted by: Wicker Fish on 09-26-04

Yeah, hi Jar.

Posted by: fairlamb on 09-22-04

hello to jared bryant.

Posted by: Jar on 09-20-04

That's...ten "songs" to glory. The project has had trouble getting off the ground amidst an onslaught -O- problems...the first being that everyone is too old for rock. The new project is called "Ten months to practice".

Posted by: Brian Veltkamp on 08-27-04

Two Words:
Ten Steps to Glory!!!

Posted by: Scott A on 08-23-04

A music search brought me to your site...spent a bit of time poking around...and voila, a trip down amnesia lane! I fondly recall that Cars concert in 1982, as well as my awe with your Casiotone and drawings. Damn those were good times! Would love to catch-up...
scott_anderson@irv.yr.com

Posted by: hadi simbo on 08-18-04

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Posted by: King Assbag on 08-09-04

Oh yeah, I forgot about the rock the vote show... check out www.rockthevotekzoo.com for the schedule...

Posted by: IVESLIVES on 08-08-04

Did I hear Rollinghead reunion! I have missed hearing those guys for 60 SEASONS! This show is a must see!

Posted by: Teet on 08-02-04

Hey now! Is that anyway to talk about the town that offers us the USTA Boys Tennis Championships?

Posted by: King Assbag on 07-29-04

Nope. Kzoo has once again returned to the vast wasteland of poo.

Posted by: Craig on 07-23-04

I will be in Kazoo August 17-28. If there are any cool rock shows I must see, like Sinatras or whoever, let me know. I realize I'm one day late on the Rollinghead show and that blows. Keep me posted.

Posted by: Horst on 07-18-04

Who's that thinking his friends are ignoring him?

Posted by: on 07-17-04

There is some joke I'm not "getting". Are all my friends ignoring me because I am a flake, or is everyone just tired of me? Seriously...I might have to work up some tears.

Posted by: Till himself on 07-17-04

Anyone into the Hudson Debacle should check out a Hudson Debacle disc. Come on? Please? Anyone? Beuler?

Posted by: Jaybell on 07-12-04

Anyone into Hudson Debacle should definately check out a new band called SLOAN. They just came out with a new album "Action Pact." It's some good shit.

Posted by: Pointy on 07-03-04

There will be a Rollinghead reunion at the Rock the Vote Kalamazoo registration rally on August 28th. All of the original members will be playing at the Arcadia festival site along with many other good bands.

Go to rockthevotekzoo.com

Posted by: Tom on 06-27-04

New Thought Industry board at web4insects.net

Posted by: Jared on 06-16-04

Sniff N THe Tears...Drivers Seat...It's a song I convinced the Rollinghead guys to play when I was in the band...for a nanosecond. I recommend you get a copy. It's a great late night drunk driving song.

Posted by: Jeff himself on 06-16-04

What's driver seat?

Posted by: Jart on 06-16-04

Does anyone remember Jarts? What a great and dangerous game. Lakers suck. Joby...I amy have given you a wrong address...try it again...Jared@jonnyenterprises.com (case sensative) Drivers Seat. Hey G

Posted by: Dave G. on 06-15-04

Hi Jar. Hope Portland is treating you well. We'll talk soon. Word. Driver's Seat. Go Pistons!

Posted by: Joby on 06-12-04

You can here me croon Sad Love songs in my best "post-kzoo" I'll suck my heros dry voice at http://www.purevolume.com/JobyPurucker

Obviously my band isin't playing enough.

P.S. Jared I tried to email you after your last mail and it got bounced back to me . . . Thanks for your nice comments and I hope all is well with you.

Joby

Posted by: Jargonaut on 06-12-04

Do I have any friends in the "Till camp?

Posted by: Jeff himself on 06-10-04

Thanks Dave!

Jart, You can also post to dave on dave at davegrantnude.com

Posted by: Jart on 06-10-04

Is this the only message board I can contact Dave Grant on?

Posted by: Dave Grant on 06-09-04

Jeff, I love the painting of the jokers at the party tellin' jokes. Very, very, very, good.

Posted by: Jar on 05-28-04

What is a "ghost dance song"? I think we need to change the name of the band to Two-hundred Songs to Glory and tell the full tail of the 90's KZOO music scene. Y-know...Everyone from Kalamazoo living here in Portland has been mysteriously branded with a "KZOO" sticker on their vehicle.

Posted by: Dave on 05-27-04

How about a Ghost Dance song?

Posted by: Jeff himself on 05-27-04

Ooh ooh do a Sinatra's song too while you are at it!

Posted by: Jar Boom! on 05-26-04

Annual Explosion is better than "breakdown"...
thanks for being kind to my curse Jeff. Portland is great. I am no longer telling of my puruits. I figure they will change every year anyway. I'm living with Karla and another roomie from Montana by the name of Bethany. Halsey and I are getting together this week to rehash the past in the form of a band called "Ten Songs To Glory" which will start out as ten songs from bands such as Doxie, GHG, Rollinghead, TI, Twitch and select others. We are not requesting permission from anyone for the use of music...fuck you. It sounds as though all is well in tasmland. Love the painting Jeff.
Yours, Jar

Posted by: carl on 05-26-04

the whole cursive catalogue is worth picking up, including tim kasher's side project The Good Life.

"domestica" and "the ugly organ" are both amazing albums. the split ep with eastern youth entitled "8 teeth to eat you" is also some prime cursive.

Posted by: Scawt on 05-21-04

Ahoy Jeff. In my embarassingly drunken email I forgot to mention you should listen to the band Cursive's latest record "The Ugly Organ". A few tracks were actually refered to as "Till-esque" by me and mine. Rock.

Posted by: Question from peanut gallery on 05-17-04

Does Aussie Overman suck as hard as Kalamazoo Overman?

Posted by: Overman from Kalamazoo on 05-17-04

Hello from Overman from Kalamazoo (USA)

Posted by: foverman on 05-16-04

hi fellow overman from Australia

Posted by: Jeff himself on 03-27-04

Steve, yes, they are the original pressing with different artwork. They are $15 (despite the misleading sign), afterall, there are only four left.

Posted by: Craig on 03-27-04

Thats the very basement I will be searching for whatever might be left of the original artwork. It scares me down there.

Posted by: Steve on 03-26-04

Alright, cool. So basically these CDs that you're selling at CD Baby aren't reissues or whatnot, but the actual first pressing with a new cover and artwork? I also noticed that up near the top, it says the CD is 13 dollars and on the CD Baby site it says 15. Which is it?

Posted by: Jeff himself on 03-26-04

The last four ARE the end of the first pressing. The CDs have the drippy Depression logo and everything.

The folded card packaging, as I think Craig told me, was destroyed in a basement flood.

The new packaging has been one-offs. I wanted to use different artwork and have more of a "TASM" feel, as Screwtape the band was disbanded and TASM still has a little live energy.

The Re-issue of Screwtape will be re-branded as Screwtape and I'll use the 'classic' artwork (like the icon on the top of this page). We might dink with the mastering a bit (essentially turn up the volume) and add some bonus material if we have time. Maybe that Amphibian track and other live stuff will make it.

The sampling on the online amphibian track was terrible. Now that Nash and I have our own studio, we can be more prolific with the re-releases.

Posted by: Steve on 03-26-04

Oh and, what happened to that live clip you had for Amphibian awhile back? I dowloaded it, but had to reformat my computer and when I came back, it was gone. This is a kick ass song and it brings back alot of great memories. Any particular reason it was removed?

Posted by: Steve on 03-26-04

I'm in Kalamazoo also and have been searching just about everywhere for it. It sucks that all the old stores that had a wider variety of local music are long gone now (I think Boogie was where I originally bought the CD, I was probably 14 at the time, haha). Anyways, i'll pick up that reissue for now and i'll let you guys know if I come across any copies of the original.

Posted by: Craig on 03-26-04

I am the man with the old first issue CD card. In June I will be searching out stock in Kalamazoo Michigan for first issue Screwtape CD stuff. I might be able to find the original card but also might not. Jeff has been on me for years about this and June will be the time I find or dont find these. I will let you, Steve know.

Posted by: Steve on 03-26-04

That isn't the first pressing though, is it? I remember the copy I used to have was a one piece folded piece of cardboard that contained the front cover on one side, and the back was in black and white. It didn't come in a jewel case, but it came in a plastic sleeve. Is this the same one? I might just have to settle for the reissue if not. Also, are there going to be any more copies available after those last 4 sell out?

Posted by: Jeff himself on 03-22-04

You can buy one of the last 4 copies of the first pressing of Anthemunanthem here:

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/tasmlab92

Or follow the big 'purchase cd' links to the above left!

Posted by: Steve on 03-22-04

I want an original copy of Anthemunanthem. I have a fairly large collection of Kalamazoo artists memorabilia. Does anyone know where I might be able to obtain this?

Posted by: Colin on 03-14-04

Just want to thank everyone for comming to the show at Kraftbrau on the 5th. It was tons of fun to see all the old rock fraternity. Hope to see everyone again soon. Keep on rockin.

Posted by: Jeff himself on 03-11-04

But isn't there ONE MORE RECORD needed to finally close the deal with the devil? We've been waiting for a drum machined Disintegration II.

Posted by: Jargun on 03-11-04

If you were at Colin's show on Friday, you would know that at least 8 former members are still alive. Let's see...there was Herb, Mark, Cam, Paul, Mike, Brent, and me. WE only needed Spaeth, Lee, Donaldson, and Hutchinson ( unrecorded but still a former member)to have a complete reunion. As for T.I. The fact that there are still people out there who are unaware that ThOught Industry is no more, is exactly the reason for its demise. XXOO

Posted by: ibtoast on 03-08-04

Has T.I. perished??
If so I shall retire to my sub-lithonian lair.

Posted by: Craig on 03-07-04

Colin, send Decastro my e-mail and tell him Veritas is still alive and west.

Posted by: Colin on 03-07-04

I posted the news on Luke. You can contact me if you want to get in touch with Luke at Twanger88. I don't have permission to just post his e-mail.

Posted by: Jaroldhole Riviera on 03-06-04

The show last night was great. Brent is in fact...a cosmonaut.

Posted by: on 03-05-04

Posted by: Luke Decastro has been found on 03-05-04

Luke Decastro has been located on the planet. He lives in Australia and is married to chick named Roma. His e-mail address is given through me at twanger88@yahoo.com

Posted by: Jeff himself on 03-02-04

Its a great e-mail address. You'd think kzoo only had four people in it. Jared@kzoo.com brent@kzoo.com etc., Or maybe that Dave was the mayor.

I think I'll send the motherfucker a fucking note.

Posted by: Dave on 03-01-04

As confusing as it is, Dave Grant's email is actually david@kzoo.com, not dave@kzoo.com.

Thanks

Posted by: on 02-23-04

dave@kzoo.com

Posted by: Ryan on 02-21-04

Hey
Anyone know Dave Grant's (Rollinghead/Dead River Drag) email?
Thanks

Posted by: Jeff himself on 02-18-04

thoughtindustry.com done went out of business, or at least has 'gone fishing'

Posted by: hotblack on 02-18-04

where's the thought industry website?

Posted by: Joby on 02-06-04

http://www.knivesarequiet.com

Fully Functional

http://www.oceansofregret.com

Also Functinal

http://www.usagainstall.com

Coming soon . . .

Posted by: Jared on 02-05-04

Hey Jeff, Thanks for the NPO links. Do you still love me? It's funny, I spent a bunch of money to get set up for online business, and so far I have sold 1 out of the 60+ laptops through it. Web-site, shmeb-site. Nothing sells like boots on the ground.
J

Posted by: till himself on 02-05-04

Your DNS has matured, Joby-san.

"Writing Red Letters" is a bully of jam. Looking forward to the rest.

Posted by: Jared on 02-04-04

I got kicked off the "fence" message board. I guess now that I am self employed, I have too much time on my hands...is that styx?

Posted by: Jared on 02-04-04

I noticed the site is a mess. You get at least one day to figure it out before I start bothering your mother. I can't wait to see you on the 11th. Haha Jeff Till, you don't get to see them! Jar

Posted by: Joby on 02-04-04

Oh and I'm not responsible for the "fence" site actually Jeff Borkowski Hijacked my coding so in a way I guess I am responsible for it haha Naw . . . I wrote thier Bio I just do oceans of regret and knives are quiet's sites rite now.

Posted by: Joby on 02-04-04

Unggghhhh!!!! That pisses me OFF!!! YAHOO BLOWS!!! It's time to fix that shit . . . Sorry all give it a few days and everything should work fine I don't get it cuz it works for me??? try Clicking This

Posted by: Jeff himself on 02-04-04

Joby, you DNS is all a flutter, I can't get to your site any which way without hearing that the server can't be found.

Posted by: Jar the machinegun on 02-03-04

Nice try Joby..any real TI fan knows that was Dustin. I simply don't posses the reflex chaos of such calculated and beautiful paraflamadiddlishesness. I barely remember the song whale...oh I think I remember...didn't that one...no, I'm thinkin of another mindblending piece of extraordinary music Brent shat at us from his practice stance that we didn't play twice in a row and forgot. Someone would say something funny...we would laugh and drink more beer...then practice Third Eye, and forget all about the splender of the previous experiment. Brent is going to spit a 100 song album at us one of these days. I got a message from Bryers today. It was all broken up and I didn't call him back. I just remember hearing the words "Pink", "if it's green", "frog" and laughter after that for a spot. the "fence" site is cool, did you design that?
Balljar

Posted by: Joby on 02-03-04

For EXTREMELY Low Quality, Live, Unreleased (Or More likely Never Recorded at all) TI, Drunken, Red Neck, Battle Creek Style, PROOF that Jareds Druming in No Way Sucks . . . I give you . . . Whale . . .

http://www.oceansofregret.com/audio/mp3/whale.mp3

Plus Brent's Drunkeness Shines like The Morning Star.

Now someone post some goodies for me.

That's from the Jar, Brent, Paul, Mike Era . . .

Archivist

Posted by: Joby on 02-03-04

Practicing My smoke blowing . . .

Actually I JUST re-did the Knives are quiet site last night and everything SHOULD by all means be working correctly now . . . I even added a couple mp3's . . . If not give it a couple days and try www.knivesarequiet.com I got the domain name now it's just not active yet.

http://www.oceansofregret.com/knives

This will sound retarded but if you open that page and it places a"\" after the url delete that slash and then hit enter that works for me . . . Yahoo fucking BLOWS!!!

Love Drunkie . . .

Posted by: carl on 02-03-04

for mr till:

http://www.oceansofregret.com/knives/mp3/afhat.mp3

url for the cure cover that KAQ did.

Posted by: Till himself on 02-03-04

Joby, I can't find the KAQ cure download. I'd love to hear it.

KAQ - Prepay

Posted by: Jared on 02-03-04

The 11th you say...why...that is just one more "one" away from an MZD chant! I would very much like the opportunity to come down and vomit runny chunks of that fine craft brew with you and your friends to. I can't keep this secret any longer...especially with the rhyme I just busted. I am actually the one that wrote all the lyrics for TI. You know, I wasn't that good of a drummer...hate to break it too you so harsh, but I actually for all pertinent arguements on my behalf was a rather poopie player. If I promise to come down to KraftBrau on the 11th, do you promise to blow gobs of smoke up my butt and make me feel better about my playing? The only music I did that I was proud of was the Guns stuff, and I only say that because it took the least amount of time. I think I have always hated playing, but was always good enough to fool people into a compliment. There were always moments...like the time I broke my knuckle on the rim of my snare drum and bled all over the place...that was punk. See you on the 111th

Posted by: Joby on 02-02-04

Hi Jared Thanks for the nice comments . . . Knives are Quiet is on Hiatus as is WAY to far for Chris to drive in all this snow and he has other things going on. He has been playing acoustic shows on occasion. We all want to continue Knives are Quiet and actually started recording some of the songs so Hopefully when snow starts to melt Chris will come back and rock with us some more. Oceans of Regret is playing Kraftbrau Wednesday the 11th of February the show is free and we go on early come hang out so we can be drunkand tell you how fresh your drumming is.

There is an mp3 of Knives are quiet doing a Cure tune at http://www.oceansofregret.com/knives I may swap it out soon with some other songs from that show if I ever decided which ones sound the least shitty . . .

and new oceans of regret stuff at http://www.oceansofregret.com

sometimes is loads crappy so if it dont work just hit refresh a time or two.

Thanks

Novelist

Posted by: Jared on 02-02-04

Thanks for the cudos Carl. When is oceansofregret playing next? I am forcefeeding people laptops, but every once-in-a-while I like to sharpen my musical knife on the stone of this defunct and willemena/poundn'beers run stage here in ZooRopa. The last time I had the extreme pleasure of seeing Chris on stage was with "Ocean" it blew me away...almost as much as Willemena on public access. My mom always said, "if you can't say something nice...make sure it is bad enough to get back to them, then you don't have to worry about them calling you". Great advice from a wise woman that wears combat boots.
-juicy hair 3.14

Posted by: carl on 01-31-04

haven't visited in quite awhile. i see a whole bunch of ramblings.

first off, brent frequents the first to the fence board which you can visit at, you guess it... firsttothefence.com.
kevin was in town over thanksgiving but i didn't see him. your best bet at finding out his contact info would be via joby at oceansofregret.com. joby was speaking to him about doing a new hall of records site for him.

jared, you rock. had to say that since it had been a few years since it rolled off my tongue.

i never even knew a doxie 2 disc existed.

kalamazoo music scene is dead. quite literally. the piano bar has stolen the town away.

and last but not least, goethebeatle... you were supposed to have sent me that show a long time ago after i hooked you up with the medicine ball demos. i still want that show.

i have a vhs copy of the twitch reunion show. it is amusing.

also, bryers is rocking it out metal style with oceans of regret as a backing band in a new project called Knives Are Quiet. much more abrasive compared to his sleet endeavor.

i also have a copy of daddyhorse.

i think that is it.

you can all reach me via either faust655321@yahoo.com or caskew@wmis.net.

Posted by: Jar on 01-28-04

Hey Craig, you can E me direct jonny@jonnyenterprises.com

Posted by: Verity on 01-28-04

Oh, of course, I forgot the ass-fucked part. Good work my friend.

Posted by: jar-porn on 01-28-04

Chicks with dicks get ass-fucked and sucked off by horny studs and other dolls with dicks...glad to know my hard work has passed along...

Posted by: Craig on 01-28-04

Chicks with dicks get fucked and sucked by... and dolls......Jared? help!

Posted by: Jared, aka-lost-in-space on 01-27-04

Fun, love and the need for a Doxie CD. Hello troopers...rhymes with poopers. Poop is funny. If anyone needs a laptop...look no further. (shameless plug I know) Hey Mr Verity, hey Mr Halsey. I have daddyhorse for anyone who gives me an address, you only have to buy a laptop from me and I'll send you one...just kidding, I don't have daddyhorse...but you should buy a laptop from me....just kidding...but you should. Seriously, I'll burn it and send it anywhere as long as I have drooled beer on myself while-est in your presence at least once from 1992-1999 For the TI answer...does anyone really care about the site of a defunct band? I'm shakin' & peein' for any cosmonaut dribblings...Is Brent alive and well? Anyone...is anyone out there? Is this thing on? Short wave the best TI album by miles...musicianship, content, and lyrics..eat that. It's the only TI album I can make it through anymore without pushing eject. I guess what I am getting at is I hope Brent is still making music, and I hope I can hear some soon. Jeff, your a musical freak...no, scratch that...your a musical SuperfreaK. Good night Johnboy.

Posted by: Craig on 01-27-04

Don't leave me out of this Doxie funfest!

Posted by: gbh on 01-24-04

email your street address (gbhalsey@yahoo.com) and i'll mail you a doxie 2. i just got a cd burner, which makes it much easier to copy cds than my previous method of etching binary code with a scratch awl by hand.

yes, i should own stock in home depot - obscene amounts of our income goes there.

good to read about the old kalamazooians here...thanks for your efforts.

anybody know what happens in kazoo these days? is mike roche able to keep busy? i was home over the holidays for my sister's wedding (her new husband is mike fuerst of knee deep shag fame, making the two of them a low frequency matrimonial tour de force) and it was hard to nail anyone down on the musical happenings these days.

Posted by: paulie/goethebeatle on 01-24-04

Yeah, I'll take the second DOXIE disc as well, I've got two copies of the first one, and an FAQ vinyl that I rock on a regular basis. So...how does a multi-million selling band like Thought Industry NOT pay their website bill...and yet an admirably self-motivated artist like Till/Tasm continue to provide our only tether to the K-zoo scene? Forgive me for an embarassing amount of honour, but I'm still playing Sleet/Twitch/TI/Killswitch/T.I. on a regular basis as I construct my Paula Abdul meets Dio pop epics (no...American Idol wouldn't have me...) and while we're on the topic, I do have a pocket-audio recording of the "last Twitch show" with tracks like Propeller and Wedding Day in very listenable form. I'm still here in Hamtramck, MI...anyone have any suggestions on where to go in the US (since y'all are scattered now) to cultivate a solid, affluent lifestyle?

Posted by: Jeff himself on 01-24-04

Hi Geoff! Have you garnered the appropriate Home Depot fetishes that accompany old age?

Mail me the second DOXIE disc, please. Everybody wants one.

The Oberlin kids have been MIA for a while. I've heard the best way is to call their mom in BC.

Posted by: geoffrey b halsey on 01-24-04

hello and howdy

looking for a way to contact kevin oberlin - anybody got any idears?

molly and i are liviin it up out here in por tland...actually we work on our crappy house a lot and don't socialize much. but we're having fun doin that.

Posted by: Devon Lorrell on 01-16-04

I love my dead gay son!

Posted by: Jeff himself on 01-12-04

Daddyhorse - GOOD LUCK. You'll have to find someone to burn it for you. I don't have a copy.

Posted by: james on 01-08-04

who can get me a copy of rollingheads daddyhorse? it was my favorit cd 4 years. putnam1391@yahoo.com

Posted by: jeff himself on 01-08-04

Itsucks: I wish I knew which drawing your were referring to. Perphaps a shortcoming in this comment system.

thoughtindustry.com has been down for months. No one paid the bill. Rumors only: Cosmonaught has recorded but I haven't seen it. The Doxie album exist but only a handful of people have a copy. I don't have one but would love one.

Posted by: Paulie on 01-07-04

What is the status of the Thought Industry website? It doesn't seem to load when I try to check it out (it's been that way for 'bout two months, mebbe.)...and any news on Cosmonaut? Or the never released Doxie 2nd LP?

Posted by: itsucks on 01-07-04

WOW that was interesting i never knew some one who would draw that, but WOW!!!!

Posted by: Jeff himself on 01-07-04

Hi David G. Are you THE David G.?

Posted by: Craig on 01-07-04

And there is Colin! Rock out Colin.

Posted by: Jeff himself on 01-06-04

Nice site Colin. You look so young! What happened to your fro? Its only been five years since I've seen you.

WTF? No TASMLAB.ocm link? I'll put up one here if you put one up for me.

Posted by: Colin on 01-05-04

Hi, everyone. Just wanted everyone to know that my new band "Undercast" has posted songs on our website www.undercast.net Our band features punk legend Denis Buckley from 88 fingers louie. Rock on.

Posted by: David G. on 01-02-04

Hi Jeff, I love the new site! Happy New Year!
I hope all is well with you.

Posted by: Jeff himself on 12-31-03

Thanks for the kind words, Dave, but I'm trying to get people to PAY for this shit. Keep your yap shut about how fucking nice I am.

I'm really a goose.

Posted by: dave richardson on 12-29-03

I love this site! I've been a Thought industry fan for a long time, and through them, found out about Jeff.
I sent him a letter once, asking how to get the first TASM cd, and he sent it to me in good faith that I would pay him...which I did.
He also sent me a cassette of a lot of hard to find Twitch stuff. He also sent me a copy of the second TASM cd for free.
It's nice to know that there are good and trusting people in the world.
His art work is beautiful.
My favorite cd of his is Screwtape, great fun!

Posted by: PREGNETPUSSY on 12-16-03

Till, your site is totally grody (groddy?)

Posted by: Scotty on 12-11-03

I for one don't find your site disgusting. Saucy? Yes. "Off the hook"? Very possibly. But disgusting? Ah fuck no. Fo shizzle.

Posted by: Jeff on 12-08-03

Charles Brandford? Send me a proper note at jeff@tasmlab.com.

Lisa, I'm sorry you find my website is disgusting. I'm really a goose.
Since the redesign, it ends up that I've been getting a ton of traffic for "pictures of abortions" because of a page title. All of this interest, I figure, is coming from 'faces-of-death' type teenage boys who like a good gross-out, and jesus-freaks and other fundamentalist looking for something to be angry about. Was Lisa here for the free MP3s or the TI links? Hard to say. I've removed the abortion title, even though it was my biggest driver of traffic to date. I'd rather get two visitors interested in Nomeansno-rip-off bands than 100's of abortion rubber-neckers.
Hi Devon. Thanks for the snaps.

Posted by: Devon Lorrell on 12-08-03

LMAO at Lisa Cairns!

Posted by: Lisa Cairns on 12-08-03

In my opimion i think that your website is disguisting

Posted by: Charles on 12-06-03

Jeff, Great website! Its about time I got a good look at your work. How are things?

Posted by: Jeff on 12-06-03

This is a replacement for the Jan 1st board which had no messages. Please feel free to post comments, they will show up on each page.

Use the form on the left hand side.

Thanks!
Jeff

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